Showing posts with label Harley Quinn. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Harley Quinn. Show all posts

Friday, August 12, 2016

Harley Quinn (WTF? Friday...8/12/2016)

 Hey Joe.
I wanted to talk about Suicide Squad a little bit,
 and Harley in particular.
This is the Harley Quinn I remember. I saw B:TAS when it came out and I knew she was created for the cartoon. She struck me as a new interpretation of the thugs from Adam West's 1966 Batman - that is: the "lackey" that follows the main villain (Joker in this case) around and does what they're told. But here, the thug is female. And instead of a black shirt with "THUG" written on it, she's wearing a harlequin costume...and her name is Harley Quinn. Not much of a stretch.
But over time, the cartoon (and comics) gave her the beginnings of the backstory we know.
All well and good. But then I saw Margot Robbie's look in the trailers and started to worry. I get that Harley's outfit is different from the animated series. I know why that decision was made...
...'cause, really, that wouldn't work.
My worry was that I wasn't sure how my wife and daughter would respond to the live-action version. I expected Adorkette to want to see the film with her boyfriend. But when Mrs. Adorkification said she wanted to see it, I was surprised to say the least.
As I mentioned Monday, we saw the film over the weekend.
I knew she'd like Deadshot. It's Will Smith. She likes Will Smith. EVERYBODY likes Will Smith. But how would she react to Harley?
Turns out she was Mrs. Adorkification's favorite.
W...T...F...?
On the drive home, I talked about how she differed from her original look. She talked about Harley's character. We agreed that it was clear Joker ruined her life. Messed her up completely. But I thought he really loved her (the only way Joker could love anyone) and I saw their relationship as a twisted DC version of a gangster and his moll. Joker found her, affected/infected her, and turned her into a lovesick fan.
Get it?
Mrs. Adorkification saw the relationship as extremely abusive. Messed with her head (during the sessions), and messed with her body (the shock treatments) and even talked her into suicide...until he decided to save her. She described Harley as "broken'. Joker broke Harley.
 
Since then, I've seen and read some reviews which brought a specific thing I noticed in the film back to mind:
which made NO damn sense at the time.
It seems that the idea of Harley having Joker's baby isn't new. It was brought up in an issue of Injustice, an alternate DCU based on the video game. In that issue, Harley confesses to Black Canary that she got pregnant, left to deliver her child (a girl, to be raised by Harley's sister) and came back to Joker...who didn't even notice she was gone: a classic example of an abusive relationship.
W...T...F...?
Reading that made me think of another thing I remember reading a while back...
...which featured a character named Joker's Daughter.
No. I'm not making that up.
That wasn't even the first Joker's Daughter to appear in DC Comics. But I always thought that the KC character was either an adopted daughter or just a fan that wanted to follow in Joker's footsteps.
Get it?
So now I'm not only accepting Joker being a father (which is a whole other blog), I'm accepting the fact that a) Joker's Daughter must have had a mother, and b) Harley was that mother.
W...T...F...?
Getting back to the movie, if you remember the scene I'm talking about (where Joker's lying in that circle of blades) you may have noticed two sets of infant clothes. Twins. Now flash-forward to the end of the film, when Enchantress shows everyone their heart's desire, and she's with Joe Kerr raising twins. Holy S#!t.
So where are the twins?
My guess? Harley miscarried. A result of Joker's physical abuse. Which finally 'broke' her. I also think she never told Joker...which is a callback to the Injustice comic.
Kinda gives some extra meaning to Harley's clothing choices, doesn't it?

Thursday, September 19, 2013

How old do I feel?

Harley Quinn turned 21 this year on September 11th.
Has it really been that long since her Batman: The Animated Series appearance?
yes...it has...


Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Toy Fair 2013...


I honestly had no idea this was happening,

but then I saw some pics...







...and remembered the days of dragging my mother to Toy World every Saturday to get "yet another Star Wars figure".

Saturday, February 9, 2013

10 WTF? Castings...

I came across another list on whatculture.com about "Insane Castings That Almost Ruined Comic Book Movies" and felt obliged to offer my thoughts...

10) Bill Murray as Batman.

This was during the Burton years, and I never heard this rumor, but picturing him in the mask alone makes me scratch my head never mind the costume.

On a side note, David Duchovny was considered for the role somewhere between Batman Returns and Batman & Robin.


9) Madonna as Harley Quinn.

This is news to me. Guess there was a plan to follow up B&R with another Schumacher film featuring Harley.

Director aside, I'm not against a Harley film, and I think Madonna could have done a decent job (check out her work in Dick Tracy)...back in the eighties.


8) Dougray Scott as Wolverine.

This one I heard about, and now we bring alternate realities to the table. If it wasn't for an injury caused during Mission Impossible's filming, this would have happened, and we never would have heard of Hugh Jackman.

Better or worse...it sure would have been different.


7) Tom Cruise as Iron Man.

First reaction? No F**kin' Way!

Then I thought about it. Before RDJ owned the role, I could see Cruise's name on the list...for the film, and the Iron Man franchise. But the entire MMU?

No F**king Way!


6) Sylvester Stallone as Superman.

Okay. I know RDJ can't be Tony Stark forever anymore than Christopher Reeve could be Clark Kent. But Goddamn!

I will say that Stallone would have made a decent Kent (Tango and Cash anyone?), but Superman?
 
No F**king Way!


5) John Krasinski as Captain America.

No. Just...no.








4) Nic Cage as Scarecrow.

This actually makes some kind of weird sense to me.

It would have happened in the same film Madonna played Harley, and that would've been one wacky-ass film.



3) Neil Diamond as Superman.

WTF? If the Salkinds were doing the musical, maybe. (HUGE maybe), but apparently Diamond pushed hard for the role.

Talk about wacky-ass films...


2) Willem Dafoe as Batman.

This is just s#!t. Burton thought about it, and realized that he just didn't fit.

My opinion? He's still got potential for a good role in a superhero film (his Green Goblin was good, not phenom) but I'll have to get back to you on who...


1) Nic Cage as Superman.

You knew this was coming...

In a nutshell - you can't recast a role done to perfection with a similar looking actor ( i.e. Superman Returns) because script aside there's too much similarity to what's been done before.

You have to go different.

Whomever replaces Jackman, RDJ, and Stewart (to name just a few) will have a hard enough time without the added stress of looking like the actor(s) being replaced. They'll need to make the role(s) their own, while still remaining true to the character(s).

James Bond is a great example of this. Moviegoers knew when the actor was being replaced, and if you look at the films and the men involved, the least popular was On Her Majesty's Secret Service, not because of the story - where (spoiler) Bond gets married...and widowed...in the same film, and not because of the supporting cast - Diana Rigg played the doomed Teresa di Vicenzo. I think it's because lead actor George Lazenby looked (and played it) too darned much like Sean Connery.

So, while Cage as Superman isn't the right choice...it was definitely the right direction...

Any thoughts?